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    Default Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    This post might be a bit on the long side, so please bear with me....

    Last Friday my computer (ABIT IP35 M/B, Core2Duo E6750, Radeon 5770) restarted suddenly and would not POST, it was stuck with an error message and a continuous beep from the PC speakers
    "BIOS ROM checksum error
    Detecting floppy drive A media...
    System Error. System Halt"

    I cleared CMOS by shorting jumper pins and then took out the CMOS battery and put it in again after some time. My PC still would not POST. The fans would spin up and spin down. The system would then power up, but there would be nothing on display, just long 2-second beeps from the PC speaker. I changed the RAM slots and that seemed to have fixed it.


    Today, we had a load-shedding at 9 PM. After the power came back, I tried to turn on my PC around 10, but it wouldn't run at all. None of the fans would spin. My M/B has a red LED which indicates whether power is available, that was lit up though. I went through the following series of actions:

    1. Tried shorting the +PWR- pins with a screw driver, didn't work, no power
    2. Unplugged my graphics card from the slot, unplugged hard disk and DVD-ROM, tried to turn on system, didn't work, same as above
    3. Took off my PSU (Fortrex 500W) and hooked it to an old Pentium-4 PC I had lying around, the Pentium-4 posted
    3. Hooked the Pentium-4 PSU (generic 300W) to this PC (just the motherboard), it didn't turn on
    4. Put everything back to the way it was and gave it a final go, the system powered up! It didn't go to POST however, just the fans kept spinning.
    5. Turned it off and started again, the fans started, spun down once, and the system POSTed. Here is the strange thing, however. All my BIOS settings had been reset, and the system time was set to 9:30, even though the actual time was somewhere around 11:45 PM

    Everything seems to be running fine now for the time being, I have turned the system on and off a couple of times, everything started normally, no fan spin-downs.

    So what could my problem be? Right now it seems it could be any one of the following:

    1. A dying CMOS battery
    2. A dying PSU
    3. A dying motherboard

    So throw some diagnosis my way.

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    Change the CMOS battery. Clear CMOS by shorting jumper. And try again.

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Muradd9 View Post
    Change the CMOS battery. Clear CMOS by shorting jumper. And try again.
    A dying CMOS battery would be the best case scenario. Everything seems to be working fine at the moment, although God knows for how long. I don't have a fresh CMOS battery handy right now, need to buy one. Any idea how much they can cost? And would you recommend any places to buy them? I live near Dhanmondi....

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    From your 1st post, you mentioned 2sec long beep. I think thats a hardware failure sign. This kind of thing happened with me too. It was my gpu which was dying. You should look ur gpu for any kind of burn sign. Also it'll best if you use a running gpu for a week instade of that 5770. By the way, which gpu brand you are using?

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    Beeps do occur in an hardware failure but not on the case of a failed battery. I think some connections were lose. When detached and reattached everything the problem was gone. I suggest a one week observation before changing anything. How old is the PC?

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    I think when it didnt post with nothing attached to it...that is significant...by the look of things...your mobo is acting up....i dont think the gpu is the prob...cause i know you bought it couple of months back.......

    Just keep it running...as long as it runs ok...thats a plus....

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    Good quality mobo battery costs around 100 tk, buy from IDB if possible to avoid fakes.
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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    When I started the PC today the fans spun down once. The system then POSTed, but BIOS settings had been reset again, and the time was wrong, it was two hours behind the actual time. It's seeming increasingly likely that it's the BIOS battery, I'll get it replaced and see what happens... God I hope it's not the motherboard...

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    If its not the battery, then its the BIOS himself for sure, this can happen if the BIOS is corrupted/cant save records/have faulty sectors. Flashing it may solve the problem for a while but permanent result is not guaranteed.
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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    Well if the BIOS was reset, then it is the battery. I would suggest a BIOS update too. Also try cleaning out any kind of dust built up inside the casing.

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    I just changed the BIOS battery, hope that solves the problem. Guess I'll have to wait until the next load-shedding to find out. won't be long

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    lol

    ---------- Post added at 18:42 ---------- Previous post was at 18:35 ----------

    even if it works, i think it is a motherboard problem. Battery jonno j pc i on hobe na aita hoy na. Just time related errors hoy. I think u shud b careful since it is power related problem. Ur mb might damage ur other components 2!

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    @ Tomal - tui mor! Ami mortesi chintay ar lol diya boisha ase...

    Just had a minor bout of load-shedding (20 minutes). No problems so far... keeping my fingers crossed

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    dont worry.
    Since you've already changed the battery, update the BIOS & reset the bios by changing the jumper(default) to the (clear) position. This is usually indicated in the manual that came with your motherboard.

    After the updating & clearing is done, you can set your customized values & then straight to your desktop.

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    Quote Originally Posted by orodruinbd View Post
    @ Tomal - tui mor! Ami mortesi chintay ar lol diya boisha ase...

    Just had a minor bout of load-shedding (20 minutes). No problems so far... keeping my fingers crossed
    arre seriously. This is most likely not a battery problem. Akta motherboard er jonno tor baki shob parts noshto korish na.

    Amar motherboard ero battery noshto hoisilo 2 months ago. Amar tau 2 years old hoisilo. It just had bios errors and could not keep time. But i could boot and run everything fine. Tor ja problem hocche ta dekhe mone hocche na je battery problem. There is a hidden problem somewhere else.
    Last edited by [email protected]; July 13th, 2010 at 21:25.

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    @dipanzan - My BIOS is already updated, ABIT hasn't released any updates in the last two years. I cleared CMOS with the jumpers and reapplied my settings.

    @Tomal - Refusing to power up is the most terrifying thing. I can attribute the BIOS reset to a bad battery, but I really can't figure out the reason behind that, aside from a dying motherboard...

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    ami sure either psu or motherboard or the power button in ur casing has problem. Refusing to power up is totally sth else, not the battery for sure.

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    Have your PC ever refused to power up after you detached and reattached everything? If not then it was just a lose connection problem, otherwise Tomal may be right.

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    Default Re: Something's dying. Need suggestions...

    Quote Originally Posted by orodruinbd View Post
    @dipanzan - My BIOS is already updated, ABIT hasn't released any updates in the last two years. I cleared CMOS with the jumpers and reapplied my settings.
    ^^ ya, I know. I own the ABIT X38 QuadGT & in the same boat as you
    I also had the IP35-E back then, I definitely know what you are talking about xD

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