Which Role is the Most Difficult Role?

[soul]

Which role is the most difficult role in a team ? carry/support/gan/leadership........

what do u think ?

[mudd]

suport definitely

[Sn4K3y-]

well ... i think the most toughest job in dota is the leadership cause this thing makes a lot of difference
a bad call might end up in a GG even if they have more items or high level ups dosent matter call is very important this is that makes a team leadership !!

[mudd]

well ... i think the most toughest job in dota is the leadership cause this thing makes a lot of difference
a bad call might end up in a GG even if they have more items or high level ups dosent matter call is very important this is that makes a team leadership !!

If the leader does make a bad call, onno ra r chup chap boshe shunbena:S they will question his decisions if they feel its not right. But if 5 ppl thnk that decision is right or if the team leader is 2 bossy for others 2 question him, then i guess they deserve 2 loose lik that:D

[kabir_sharif2000]

suport definitely

+ 1 suport:)

[SinEater]

I personally think it is support.

I also think that during a match, if the team raises a question against the leaders call, they will loose.

[Roby]

Support.im not sure whether gank is a role.
But carry is tough too.It was very hard for me whn th first time i took out the base level towers an racks while all my teammates were dying in a battle. And the amount of selfishness u need to hav is unbelievable.I still hvnt got th complete selfish skill a carry player needs to have.but i hv stopped trying to improve,my eagerness is zero at the moment, since it now seems childish to me to spend so many hours over a game.when reality ¤¤¤¤s you, dota cant help for too long.

[SP|WeRewOLF]

ALL roles in dota is difficult, i guess a team shall be imba when all players play their individual roles properly. but if there is only one choice then i would say support. LIKE i do in my team i play supportive roles in my team.

[Roby]

ALL roles in dota is difficult, i guess a team shall be imba when all players play their individual roles properly. but if there is only one choice then i would say support. LIKE i do in my team i play supportive roles in my team.

And you're DAMN GOOD at it!

[soul]

every role is equally difficult but supportin role is different from otherz

[Walking Death]

every role is difficult say like

Carry - suppose your teammates are dying but you have to be selfish and save your ¤¤¤.that's difficult for good players to see

Support - sometimes you have to sacrifice yourself for carry hero eveb he made mistakes

Tank - sometimes you have to die just bcoz the engage was right and your other teammates were dumb or you have to protect the carry hero or support hero as you can

sooooooooo evry role is difficult you can't ignore anyone

[Roby]

i think tank is easy.u go in,u die,ur team wins.u go in, u run for ur life,ur teammates die.

[SinEater]

i think tank is easy.u go in,u die,ur team wins.u go in, u run for ur life,ur teammates die.


Gosu comment....one of the best comments i have ever seen, and truest as well..:D

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

i think tank is easy.u go in,u die,ur team wins.u go in, u run for ur life,ur teammates die.

Only relevant to BD DotA.

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Definitely support. And the people saying all roles are eqully difficult are probably clueless about Competitive DotA. Sorry guys. :(

You need to have all your senses active to succeed as a supporter; chances are that you are playing the most fragile hero; "ALL" your actions will determine how well your team does, hence if you make even a single mistake, your team will suffer in a big way because of it; you will not be able to farm freely so you'll be a little short of items, and you'll need your skills to carry you.

If anyone can contend this please speak up. :p

[Walking Death]

support is the toughiest and then the carry hero but you can't abhor the other roles.

[shakib]

Yes Supporting for sure... and by saying we have no idea about "Competitive DotA" its actually true but you can't do much because we don’t have any world class players.. one player who can make the difference.. Here in BD its more like luck mixed a long with skills.. where else I have seen replays that only one player made all the difference one a game and got his team home... Few of us here in BD have good skills but at the end of the day... Its kinda luck..

[CoB666.InFn-0]

carry : easiest of all roles (i usually play carry / semi carry !) . eg . faceless , terror blade , troll etc

caster carry : in my opinion most important ... they can dominate both in early and late game ... not like a faceless tho :P . eg . akasha , rogue knight , skele , luna , shadow fiend etc

supporter : hardest (they are the sacrificial pigs) eg. lina , rhasta , enigma ... and whoever dies in the process

ps. tank is not a role

[Walking Death]

carry : easiest of all roles (i usually play carry / semi carry !) . eg . faceless , terror blade , troll etc

caster carry : in my opinion most important ... they can dominate both in early and late game ... not like a faceless tho :P . eg . akasha , rogue knight , skele , luna , shadow fiend etc

supporter : hardest (they are the sacrificial pigs) eg. lina , rhasta , enigma ... and whoever dies in the process





ps. tank is not a role


you should read my previous posts ...........

if you think that tank hero isn't a role then play without tank hero

[CoB666.InFn-0]

if people knew "tactics" , tanks wud ve been useless totally ... ekjon use korey dekhe arekjon use korey ... and most of the time i prefer not taking a tank at all

[kabir_sharif2000]

if people knew "tactics" , tanks wud ve been useless totally ... ekjon use korey dekhe arekjon use korey ... and most of the time i prefer not taking a tank at all

ooh:eek: who initiates the battle for you?:rolleyes: troll?:rolleyes:

[CoB666.InFn-0]

bro , how many good games have you seen in your dota career ? and if you would like to see who starts the battle , see me in a tournament

[kabir_sharif2000]

bro , how many good games have you seen in your dota career ? and if you would like to see who starts the battle , see me in a tournament

Yeah, may be your guso or WHATEVER! I haven't seen that much good games, because good games are hard to come by. But i have seen enough to understand that tanks ARE needed.:)

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

if people knew "tactics" , tanks wud ve been useless totally ... ekjon use korey dekhe arekjon use korey ... and most of the time i prefer not taking a tank at all

I used to also think this, up until a few months from now. Back in the 6.37-41 days, when people used to trilane and heroes did not get strong early, that's when a no-tank thing would actually be viable. But now, everyone rushes a Guinsoo, and that role of baiter/lurer is disappearing quickly.

[soul]

Those who play carry role they think they r playing the most difficult role. I opened this topic for those noob carry players to clear the views. With so much kills don’t think like hamba.

[kabir_sharif2000]

Those who play carry role they think they r playing the most difficult role. I opened this topic for those noob carry players to clear the views. With so much kills don’t think like hamba.

Hamba? LMFAO.:D

[CoB666.InFn-0]

I used to also think this, up until a few months from now. Back in the 6.37-41 days, when people used to trilane and heroes did not get strong early, that's when a no-tank thing would actually be viable. But now, everyone rushes a Guinsoo, and that role of baiter/lurer is disappearing quickly.

bangladesh er scene e u dont need a tank always ...koyjon guinsoo banai use korey thik kore? ... instead of buying 2 heart 1 vanguard and boot of speed with a centaur , a radiance hood sny travel wud be much better , would nt it ?

[shakib]

bangladesh er scene e u dont need a tank always ...koyjon guinsoo banai use korey thik kore? ... instead of buying 2 heart 1 vanguard and boot of speed with a centaur , a radiance hood sny travel wud be much better , would nt it ?

True... Like I said bangladesh e emon player ekhono hoy nai je ekta shadow fiend niye guinsoo try korar shahosh rakhe.. samething over and over again.. no matter how much we play on GG client or whatever... the gaming level might be high bt the standard is still the same...

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

True... Like I said bangladesh e emon player ekhono hoy nai je ekta shadow fiend niye guinsoo try korar shahosh rakhe.. samething over and over again.. no matter how much we play on GG client or whatever... the gaming level might be high bt the standard is still the same...

I disagree completely. Previously, only one or two players, kept themselves updated with the international scene. Very few watched replays and learned new tactics. Now, this is done in a collective whole. The level is steadily rising. We will be ready in time, don't worry. The last months have seen a massive rise in skill in BD.

You still need a tank. I was the one who used to say you don't need tanks, but now I say you do. I am not only talking about BD gaming. I am very well up-to-date with the international scene, and I am talking about the strategies the top teams, "SK", "MYM" & "VP", who are at least two fold better than Xcn and Ks, the two teams people idolize here. You need a tank, now. The DotA game is changed. with the Roshan changes and Bottle, and everything. The sole reason people didn't need tanks before was Aegis. Now, there is no aegis, YOU NEED A TANK. I am not just putting forward my hypothesis, we have tested at least 20-30 different strategies in the past two months and I am certain about what I say with hard, documented evidence. Please don't contend this, if you think you can play without a tank, show up at Assault with your team and play a game with one of the better teams without a tank and see whether you can keep yourself from crying. :p

[Walking Death]

I disagree completely. Previously, only one or two players, kept themselves updated with the international scene. Very few watched replays and learned new tactics. Now, this is done in a collective whole. The level is steadily rising. We will be ready in time, don't worry. The last months have seen a massive rise in skill in BD.

are you saying about last tournament?

[soul]

True... Like I said bangladesh e emon player ekhono hoy nai je ekta shadow fiend niye guinsoo try korar shahosh rakhe.. samething over and over again.. no matter how much we play on GG client or whatever... the gaming level might be high bt the standard is still the same...

If u do item sharin how a good player have the courage to try with new item and pawn the game.

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

are you saying about last tournament?

A bit I guess!

[Roby]

Only relevant to BD DotA.

.....

:p

i agree coz i hvnt seen much replays or dont knw much spell detail stuff bout dota,nd i said it on our context.im probably th noobest player accd to knwledge or replay views who's allowd in the pro circle.:D

[Roby]

True... Like I said bangladesh e emon player ekhono hoy nai je ekta shadow fiend niye guinsoo try korar shahosh rakhe.. samething over and over again.. no matter how much we play on GG client or whatever... the gaming level might be high bt the standard is still the same...

ekhon guinsoo banay...at least nafi...we were winning a game in asslt couple months back nd sf,jakiro nd akasha showd up with three guinsoos nd needless to say who won...

[Roby]

I disagree completely. Previously, only one or two players, kept themselves updated with the international scene. Very few watched replays and learned new tactics. Now, this is done in a collective whole. The level is steadily rising. We will be ready in time, don't worry. The last months have seen a massive rise in skill in BD.

You still need a tank. I was the one who used to say you don't need tanks, but now I say you do. I am not only talking about BD gaming. I am very well up-to-date with the international scene, and I am talking about the strategies the top teams, "SK", "MYM" & "VP", who are at least two fold better than Xcn and Ks, the two teams people idolize here. You need a tank, now. The DotA game is changed. with the Roshan changes and Bottle, and everything. The sole reason people didn't need tanks before was Aegis. Now, there is no aegis, YOU NEED A TANK. I am not just putting forward my hypothesis, we have tested at least 20-30 different strategies in the past two months and I am certain about what I say with hard, documented evidence. Please don't contend this, if you think you can play without a tank, show up at Assault with your team and play a game with one of the better teams without a tank and see whether you can keep yourself from crying. :p

a game without a tank? i dnt think its possible if u play with a pro team.after reading his post abt centar build,i think maybe cob was referring to non tanking items of a tank....

[Roby]

Those who play carry role they think they r playing the most difficult role. I opened this topic for those noob carry players to clear the views. With so much kills don’t think like hamba.

th only reason i happen to play most of th games with carry hero coz none of my teammates hv yet proven themselves as a good carry player in a serious game.i also like to play with lina/omni/lesh or th support heroes...but we end up with our carry having a butterfly at 55mins.i wud love to see others also learn how to play the 'easiest' role in th game.i guess now u HAVE to coz im leaving dota....

[Roby]

A bit I guess!

Rising Apocalypse was an awesome tournament pyro. U shud get a medal or smthing like tht for being such a smooth organizer.Hats off to you.

[soul]

th only reason i happen to play most of th games with carry hero coz none of my teammates hv yet proven themselves as a good carry player in a serious game.i also like to play with lina/omni/lesh or th support heroes...but we end up with our carry having a butterfly at 55mins.i wud love to see others also learn how to play the 'easiest' role in th game.i guess now u HAVE to coz im leaving dota....

ok let's see

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

th only reason i happen to play most of th games with carry hero coz none of my teammates hv yet proven themselves as a good carry player in a serious game.i also like to play with lina/omni/lesh or th support heroes...but we end up with our carry having a butterfly at 55mins.i wud love to see others also learn how to play the 'easiest' role in th game.i guess now u HAVE to coz im leaving dota....

and, why is that you're leaving DotA? :eek:

[SinEater]

Because he is joining again in 2 days as noob player...

Let me stress again....those of u who thinks that a role is THE MOST IMP...then you are wrong..if you think that this role is THE MOST DIFF...then you are wrong again...Each hero has a job in DotA..u can only win if all the 5 heroes play their role well....

But...being the support/support-tank is really the toughest..becaue it involves sacrfice..which no pro gamer wants to do...it is a mental aspect of the game that someone with a broader mind can come to terms with...

[Walking Death]

This post is for those who thinks that tank isn't a role


that is what i am telling that each role is important you can't ignore a tank
role saying that it isn't a role i will call you noob[sorry had to say no hard feelings] take a tank and then initiate a bad engage then you will understand........ or play atleast 100 match without tank and then post how many you won.If you win then you are the biggest pro player i will concede[no joking] being a tank isn't means that just taking damages a pro tanker also distract a battle to victory i am afraid that you don't know

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

Because he is joining again in 2 days as noob player...

Let me stress again....those of u who thinks that a role is THE MOST IMP...then you are wrong..if you think that this role is THE MOST DIFF...then you are wrong again...Each hero has a job in DotA..u can only win if all the 5 heroes play their role well....

But...being the support/support-tank is really the toughest..becaue it involves sacrfice..which no pro gamer wants to do...it is a mental aspect of the game that someone with a broader mind can come to terms with...

Then clearly I have a broader mind. :D I can play that role pretty easily. Though, I don't like it. It's not bad either. :cool:

[soul]

for me tank is not that much hard. I have found more difficulties in support

[Sn4K3y-]

well!! the toughest job in dota are the support and carry as they have a responsibility as the supportive player might ask u i supported ur hero very well and u cant deny that where the hell is ur items !!
and also leadership is very very important !!!

[soul]

well!! the toughest job in dota are the support and carry as they have a responsibility as the supportive player might ask u i supported ur hero very well and u cant deny that where the hell is ur items !!
and also leadership is very very important !!!


Is he talking about himself ?

[Pyro.Dynamics-]

Is he talking about himself ?

Dunno, he is dumb! :-/

[Zeus4mSniper]

support is the mostest difficult role and werewolf,Soul r the best.ami besi player chini na but this two r 2 of the best supporter.

[Blue_fin]

for me da supoort part
coz if u supoort ur allies and if u cant be strong then u become a liability at late game

but if u can support ur ally and also become strong like wolf does in every game
then itz sure xtremley gosu of u

[Sn4K3y-]

True... Like I said bangladesh e emon player ekhono hoy nai je ekta shadow fiend niye guinsoo try korar shahosh rakhe.. samething over and over again.. no matter how much we play on GG client or whatever... the gaming level might be high bt the standard is still the same...

u r so wrong guinsoo is very popularly made !!!
i dont think u have come to the latest tourneys, just by sitting at home and thinkin wat bangladesh gaming level could be isnt correct !!
y dont u re-appear in tourneys mayb u ll find out about ur home country's players!!

[Sn4K3y-]

Is he talking about himself ?

lol!!!
u r so noob !!!
that was ma thought , the posts are supposed to b a personal thought and plz learn english and read the question properly instead of writting something with ur eyes closed !!!
ty

[Sn4K3y-]

Dunno, he is dumb! :-/

i know that u r the smartest kid !!!
dude !! but every1 isnt like u remember that !!!
if every1 was the same !!!
it would b a disaster and plz read the question and then answer plz !!!

[Sn4K3y-]

for me da supoort part
coz if u supoort ur allies and if u cant be strong then u become a liability at late game

but if u can support ur ally and also become strong like wolf does in every game
then itz sure xtremley gosu of u

well said blue_fin !!